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Post by Queen6 on Nov 21, 2020 7:44:20 GMT
Can listen to the M15 however never have done so far, M11 Pro I have and don't like it at all. Very much put off by the sterile sound signature and the implementation of the OS, just not for me nor likely any other FiiO Q-6 Was that with Fiio Music player? Neutron, as with most android daps, improves things greatly (if configured correctly) I don't like Fiio Music, Ibasso Mango or Shanling Music (Hiby Music is the best of the manufacturer apps) Yes and no, mostly they added Google into the ROM and that I don't want whatsoever. So no more FiiO for me as it was not optional and simply came with the update and my M11 Pro was bought in mainland China. Rather concerns as others too may buckle and I'll be stuck on an old image or with Google's highly intrusive OS. One of the factor's that's holding me off the M8 as the same scenario could easily repeat. I'm sick of this assumption that it's acceptable that we are all opted in by default being completely the inverse of what it should be. Thankfully on the PC with some knowhow & tools you can regain a level of privacy. I'm not in the "Tin Hat" brigade by any means I simply don't care to be commoditised or become the product of companies who should IMO have been reigned in years ago as for the most part they are all the same despite the "we care" Jargon Apple included. Q-6
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Post by NPAudio on Nov 21, 2020 10:42:38 GMT
Was that with Fiio Music player? Neutron, as with most android daps, improves things greatly (if configured correctly) I don't like Fiio Music, Ibasso Mango or Shanling Music (Hiby Music is the best of the manufacturer apps) Yes and no, mostly they added Google into the ROM and that I don't want whatsoever. So no more FiiO for me as it was not optional and simply came with the update and my M11 Pro was bought in mainland China. Rather concerns as others too may buckle and I'll be stuck on an old image or with Google's highly intrusive OS. One of the factor's that's holding me off the M8 as the same scenario could easily repeat. I'm sick of this assumption that it's acceptable that we are all opted in by default being completely the inverse of what it should be. Thankfully on the PC with some knowhow & tools you can regain a level of privacy. I'm not in the "Tin Hat" brigade by any means I simply don't care to be commoditised or become the product of companies who should IMO have been reigned in years ago as for the most part they are all the same despite the "we care" Jargon Apple included. Q-6 The fiios now have full root (info in our forum) so we take back conplete control 😁👍
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Post by Queen6 on Nov 21, 2020 17:55:15 GMT
Yes and no, mostly they added Google into the ROM and that I don't want whatsoever. So no more FiiO for me as it was not optional and simply came with the update and my M11 Pro was bought in mainland China. Rather concerns as others too may buckle and I'll be stuck on an old image or with Google's highly intrusive OS. One of the factor's that's holding me off the M8 as the same scenario could easily repeat. I'm sick of this assumption that it's acceptable that we are all opted in by default being completely the inverse of what it should be. Thankfully on the PC with some knowhow & tools you can regain a level of privacy. I'm not in the "Tin Hat" brigade by any means I simply don't care to be commoditised or become the product of companies who should IMO have been reigned in years ago as for the most part they are all the same despite the "we care" Jargon Apple included. Q-6 The fiios now have full root (info in our forum) so we take back conplete control 😁👍 True, however I don't care for the sound signature of the M11 Pro so it's on rather borrowed time waiting to go to a friend.
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Post by gazzington on Nov 23, 2020 11:26:31 GMT
Found this on a chat group:
FiiO’s Next Plan for Players
2020 is going to end. We hope it will also be the end of the disaster. Recently, many users have been asking if there is any update plan for our players. Here I would like to give a reply, so that you can make purchase decisions according to your needs.
1. FiiO's product line of mid-to-high-end players In the past two years, we have made a plan starting with the M11 for 3 mid-to-high-end players, the M11, M11Pro and M15, all of which were based on the same platform- a 5.15-inch screen + Exynos7872 + 3G RAM + 32G/64G Flash. Because these components were discontinued at the end of 2019, we have correspondingly completed the purchase order according to our estimated sales volume. However, due to their excellent performance, the actual sales volume has exceeded our expectation, which means these models will be sold out in 2020. (“Out of stock” means the stock of our factory, while our sales agents may still have inventory).
Our future mid-to-high-end players will change the processor platform. But due to a fire in the AKM factory resulting in the supply of the AK4497/AK4499 we originally planned to use encountered problems, the models that are about to be developed have to urgently replace the DAC solution. Therefore, except for a new 4497-based model that would be released in limited quantities in 3 months, other player models will be delayed until after the summer of 2021.
Taking into account the actual performance of the M11, M11Pro and M15 and the actual experience of the 7872-based platform, I personally suggest that you can just get it if you need it. Because the successors of the M11, M11Pro and M15 would all be based on a better platform without major changes in audio configurations. But if you have a preference for ESS chips, you might as well consider it later.
2. Mid-end models Now it is the mid-end models, i.e. the M6, M7 and M9 based on Samsung Exynos7270. The M9 has been discontinued for a long time; the M7 is selling inventory; the M6 is producing the last batch. So it is estimated that in half a year, our mid-end players will be sold out. As for their successors, we are currently not planning and conducting any new research and development due to two reasons. 1) There are no appropriate processors. At present, there are fewer and fewer processors available for digital products. It is impossible to find qualified processors with appropriate cost, volume, power consumption and performance. 2) Nowadays, Bluetooth amps or little tail DAC/Amps equipped with smartphones have become a portable HIFI solution for many people. If mid-end players want to be outstanding in music experience, it may at least be equipped with Qualcomm 425 + 3G RAM + 32G Flash to meet users’ requirements. But in this case, the cost space for the audio part will be minimal. Even if we made it, it may not be as good as a Bluetooth amp or a little tail DAC/Amp, and cannot compete with mobile phones in terms of its music experience.
Therefore, mid-end players really live in a dilemma. Actual sales data also reflect this trend.
3. Low-end models As for low-end models, the M3K, M3PRO, and M5 based on Ingenic X1000, the cost of them are very tense, whose performance mainly depends on cost control rather than technology. Therefore, we will not make any renewal plans under limited conditions. If there are demands in the market, we will continue the production. Otherwise, we will stop.
This is all the basic situations. As a manufacturer, we will also make efforts in other product types to make better promotions and sales. Survival and development will not be a problem, and difficult days will finally go to an end. If you are interested in our products, you can choose our existing products, wait for our later products, or turn to other brands. One way or another, your needs go first. Thank you very much for your attention and care for FiiO. We will keep on doing what we should do.
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Post by NPAudio on Nov 23, 2020 15:37:10 GMT
Thanks gazzington, interesting news. M15 will be almost as limited as M11 Pro Stainless.
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Post by NPAudio on Dec 27, 2020 13:13:36 GMT
New FirmwareNotice: this version is still under beta testing phase, if everything works fine, we will release the offical firmware in a few weeks. And if you have any problem, please feel free to contact us at support@fiio.com. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Download link: M11-> fiio-file.fiio.net/M11-beta-20201223.zipM11Pro-> fiio-file.fiio.net/M11Pro-beta-20201223.zipM15-> fiio-file.fiio.net/M15-beta-20201223.zipUpdate note: 1. Added full-screen album cover display and spectrum display (can be set in FiiO Music settings -> Theme -> Now playing menu); 2. Added a new function of disabling the volume knob (This function is only for M15, it can be set in Settings -> Audio or in the pull-down shortcuts menu; And please note that when the volume knob is disabled, turning the knob will not directly adjust the volume but trigger the volume slider on the touch screen. In this case, you can adjust the volume using the volume slider, or control it through FiiO Link); 3. Added sorting by artist under the Album category; 4. Added displaying the total number of tracks in the track list; 5. Added a new function of switching between album list display or track list display under the Artist/Genre category; 6. Added support for using any image file as custom album cover; 7. Added a shortcut for toggling the All to DSD function in the pull-down shortcuts menu; 8. Added file sorting in FiiO Link mode; 9. Added sliding on the bottom control bar to skip tracks in FiiO Link mode; 10. Miscellaneous bug fixed.
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Post by NPAudio on Dec 30, 2020 11:27:55 GMT
New Firmware V1.04 - 2020-12-30
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