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Post by gazzington on Dec 5, 2020 18:11:31 GMT
Really impressed with the power that it has for such a small device. The hiby r5 I have partnering it with neutron is an awesome combo. The r2 is bizzare but it sounds amazing. Very different to my other daps. Most anologue I’ve heard
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Post by matpar on Dec 5, 2020 22:28:03 GMT
Really impressed with the power that it has for such a small device. The hiby r5 I have partnering it with neutron is an awesome combo. The r2 is bizzare but it sounds amazing. Very different to my other daps. Most anologue I’ve heard "Analogue" seems to be the fil rouge, if I am not mistaken hifiman already tried to Chase this result in previous DAPs. The fact Is hard to set a benchmark Is another interesting issue. Can't wait to listen to It too..  |
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Post by matpar on Dec 10, 2020 13:35:12 GMT
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Post by gazzington on Dec 10, 2020 14:02:27 GMT
Soundwise the r2 is top notch. Really amazing sound. I can cope with the ui fine too. Worst thing is the battery life from my point of view
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Post by NPAudio on Dec 10, 2020 15:56:40 GMT
Soundwise the r2 is top notch. Really amazing sound. I can cope with the ui fine too. Worst thing is the battery life from my point of view I agree for sure as a bluetooth receiver it eats the tiny battery, good results when powered from the source over usb though (obviously depends on the source battery) |
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Post by gazzington on Dec 10, 2020 16:35:18 GMT
Kind of feel like buying a battery pack to attach to it lol
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Post by matpar on Dec 12, 2020 21:04:08 GMT
Kind of feel like buying a battery pack to attach to it lol Well Hope a classical USB external battery would do, in any case my average session Is max 1.5 hours, so I have time to recharge the unit Btw, would you suggest pairing It whith bright or warm headphones? Ananda can be considered a tad bright? |
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Post by darginmahkum on Dec 14, 2020 14:53:54 GMT
I think this type of a device is the future of audiophile portables. Or even better the HM1000 (not the price, but the idea). No screen, control from a remote app over BT, BT DAC mode.
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Post by matpar on Dec 18, 2020 12:49:30 GMT
Here we go... Charging and ready to test it out First earbuds I plugged I was a bit concerned... They are somewhat bassy and the sinergy is probably wrong, put then a pair of blur coaxial I have which normally sound clean but "sterile" on other daps and man.... Wow... I have Mark playing love over gold just for me here now .. lol |
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Post by NPAudio on Dec 18, 2020 12:59:48 GMT
Here we go... Charging and ready to test it out  First earbuds I plugged I was a bit concerned... They are somewhat bassy and the sinergy is probably wrong, put then a pair of blur coaxial I have which normally sound clean but "sterile" on other daps and man.... Wow... I have Mark playing love over gold just for me here now .. lol Are you using as a DAP, playing locally. I've not even tried that yet been an EQ user  |
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Post by matpar on Dec 18, 2020 14:58:22 GMT
My reaction after some listening.   I cannot really tell, I think the aspect that got me hooked up most reading the messages from Q-6, has already been confirmed: it's miles away from the harshness (?) that DAP normally comes with, to some extent or another... I started testing songs I know, just to see how it works. At first I wasn't really impressed because I basically wasn't anymore "trained" in hearing music this way. Then a part of me just dug deep into my youthness, and found where I used to de-magnetize tape while listening that much. It is more than 1h I am lost into that little red thing, fiddling, playing, immerging myself. It gets training though, since we've got used to something different lately I guess. And I am just using a pair of 150ohm Earbuds! Need to find proper pairing with a decent HP now, this gem deserves it and calls for it: I asked what could be a good synergy, imho I think the pairing should/could be done with a very revealing and somewhat bright HP... am I getting this wrong? It is not that DAP is too much warm, but I normally expect being more "dry" than it is on 4.4: gotta balance that "organic" sound somehow and add detail/separation? dunno. Would try out and put a reference HP just to try this idea out. Will go asap to my friends at Spirit Sound here in my hometown to test out some stuff to couple with. Btw, some folklore: tried an old AKG260 I have, 600ohm, in high gain I almost hit the roof but basically it can drive them pretty well. Only problem is the cable is heavier than the DAP itself, hence I risked to drag it down the desk... need to put some sticky stuff below lol. all in all it would be an interesting journey, I guess.  Thanks Q-6 for the advice and infos and Nayparm for support |
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Post by NPAudio on Dec 18, 2020 22:19:58 GMT
I love it with Focal Elegia/Dekoni via usb with Neutron, not had to change my PEQ either, 16Khz is already increased 5db so details are nicely brought out.
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Post by Queen6 on Dec 19, 2020 0:26:28 GMT
My reaction after some listening. I cannot really tell, I think the aspect that got me hooked up most reading the messages from Q-6, has already been confirmed: it's miles away from the harshness (?) that DAP normally comes with, to some extent or another... I started testing songs I know, just to see how it works. At first I wasn't really impressed because I basically wasn't anymore "trained" in hearing music this way. Then a part of me just dug deep into my youthness, and found where I used to de-magnetize tape while listening that much. It is more than 1h I am lost into that little red thing, fiddling, playing, immerging myself. It gets training though, since we've got used to something different lately I guess. And I am just using a pair of 150ohm Earbuds! Need to find proper pairing with a decent HP now, this gem deserves it and calls for it: I asked what could be a good synergy, imho I think the pairing should/could be done with a very revealing and somewhat bright HP... am I getting this wrong? It is not that DAP is too much warm, but I normally expect being more "dry" than it is on 4.4: gotta balance that "organic" sound somehow and add detail/separation? dunno. Would try out and put a reference HP just to try this idea out. Will go asap to my friends at Spirit Sound here in my hometown to test out some stuff to couple with. Btw, some folklore: tried an old AKG260 I have, 600ohm, in high gain I almost hit the roof but basically it can drive them pretty well. Only problem is the cable is heavier than the DAP itself, hence I risked to drag it down the desk... need to put some sticky stuff below lol. all in all it would be an interesting journey, I guess. Thanks Q-6 for the advice and infos and Nayparm for support Yep some real magic & drive going on with the R2R2K. Sadly dismissed by many as they are far too focused/obsessed with the bells & whistles not the actual reproduction of music. R2R2K weak point is the battery, equally you can easily expand battery capacity with a power-bank yet few other players will sound as good as R2R2K regardless of their feature sets. Majority of DAP's simply produce a digital representation of music, R2R2K delivers music as intended with the players own colouration and that's a significant difference as the vast majority are and do sound digital, while R2R2K does not... Q-6 |
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Post by matpar on Dec 19, 2020 7:36:55 GMT
Indeed, of course battery life and UI are the main shortcomings, but the fatigue free experience is for me something new in terms of digital music fruition.
All in all so far again I think there is a deliberate "slow play" in the representation of the music, while some detail retrieval is not that incouraged (maybe this being altogether part of the musicality and hence the less fatigue).
Live recordings, if well produced, are simply stunning.
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Post by matpar on Dec 21, 2020 10:19:35 GMT
Hi all, I am going on with the journey, so far I'd say: 1) non fatiguing and analog sounding is just the punchline, maybe with some genres like EM there could be better but depending also from transducers, for sure I never had such emotions with classical (synphonic!) music. 2) I have almost no concern about UI, to me is relatively barebone but it has basically all, I'd like maybe the sampling infos and BT connection details, but I come frome stuff like Aune M2S and Alien+, and I use folder structure for sorting.. Now, things I am working out or concerned about: 1) AIFF: just doesn't play good, there is an issue in managing that format 2) local SD play vs USB DAC play: same song, it seems to me in the latter scenario it sounds "punchier" than when same song is plaied locally... any clue on how this could be? (using smartphone+UAPP in bit perfect as a transport)... placebo? 3) BT connection: I am spamming the Headfi thread on this one, don't get how this things work out of the dreadful SBC...  One of my goal was to have a LHDC end to end connection, to see what it does! 4) pairing: still working out, btw in high gain I've noticed obiosly a noisier floor, but above all a push in the "S" sibilant i.e. on some female voices, reducing the gain has positive impact on this. Will go for a closed back (so no Ananda unfortunately) as to be able to save my marriage lol. Saturday had the occasion to test out some Spirit Torino, man the Radiante are just perfect for it, but too pricey for me. Ordered now a pair of Denon 2700, and will test a friend Atticus to see if the double price is worthy or not Keep you posted! |
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One of my goal was to have a LHDC end to end connection, to see what it does!