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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 9:40:47 GMT
sorry my bad, it should be resetprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings off
and setprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings yes this does remove and readd the darwin menu
you need to close settings from tasks snd reooen settings to see the change
Ok, I created 2 scripts in smart kernel. But I donāt know how to make it to appear on Home Screen. I have to open smarkernel tool each time to execute it. resetprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings off resetprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings on Create just one script in smartpack to toggle on and off like this: #!/system/bin/sh darwin=$(getprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings) if [ "$darwin" == "yes" ] then resetprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings off resetprop ro.vendor.set_nos off resetprop ro.vendor.set_harmonic off resetprop ro.vendor.bass_boost off resetprop vendor.audio.hw.low_shelf_enable off else resetprop ro.vendor.darwinsettings yes resetprop ro.vendor.set_nos yes resetprop ro.vendor.set_harmonic yes resetprop ro.vendor.bass_boost yes resetprop vendor.audio.hw.low_shelf_enable yes resetprop vendor.audio.hw.low_shelf_boost 20 fi You can then remove them all out of build.prop so they are always off until you want them. Then add the script as a quick tile (press 6 dots next to script and tick Quick Tille) You can then edit your quick tiles and drag smartpack script up to the top. Tada you have a quck tile toggle for darwin To see darwin appear or removed in settings you must close settings from tasks and open again.
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 13:03:51 GMT
Thanks Steve!! That was a lot of work to figure out for this feature.
After playing around like almost all night and morning. I found out that MSEB is the much better overall choices.
Enabling Darwin also interfering with MSEB, yes the subtle effects are very hard to tell when enabling Darwin. But even when toggle off and settings is refreshed, it still interferes with the overall system until a restart. The proof of it is that MSEB would distort or stop working and no sound will play for example (depends on the tuning of MSEB and how aggressive it is)
In my conclusion is that taking off both features MSEB and Darwin is no fun, because MSEB is so good to have. Beside that, enabling MSEB doesnāt over ride ROHM standard filters. So I edit build prop and remove all Darwin related features, and only leaving MSEB feature enabled. This is the best feature for N8ii as it doesnāt get interfered by anything else, and Vastly influences the sound performances on a system wide scale
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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 13:22:19 GMT
Thanks Steve!! That was a lot of work to figure out for this feature. After playing around like almost all night and morning. I found out that MSEB is the much better overall choices. Enabling Darwin also interfering with MSEB, yes the subtle effects are very hard to tell when enabling Darwin. But even when toggle off and settings is refreshed, it still interferes with the overall system until a restart. The proof of it is that MSEB would distort or stop working and no sound will play for example (depends on the tuning of MSEB and how aggressive it is) In my conclusion is that taking off both features MSEB and Darwin is no fun, because MSEB is so good to have. Beside that, enabling MSEB doesnāt over ride ROHM standard filters. So I edit build prop and remove all Darwin related features, and only leaving MSEB feature enabled. This is the best feature for N8ii as it doesnāt get interfered by anything else, and Vastly influences the sound performances on a system wide scale Haha, Darwin is just as subtle or has no audible effect š¤ on an actual RS6 also. System wide MSEB is great for streaming etc I'm surprised you've not come accross it before.
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 15:12:51 GMT
Thanks Steve!! That was a lot of work to figure out for this feature. After playing around like almost all night and morning. I found out that MSEB is the much better overall choices. Enabling Darwin also interfering with MSEB, yes the subtle effects are very hard to tell when enabling Darwin. But even when toggle off and settings is refreshed, it still interferes with the overall system until a restart. The proof of it is that MSEB would distort or stop working and no sound will play for example (depends on the tuning of MSEB and how aggressive it is) In my conclusion is that taking off both features MSEB and Darwin is no fun, because MSEB is so good to have. Beside that, enabling MSEB doesnāt over ride ROHM standard filters. So I edit build prop and remove all Darwin related features, and only leaving MSEB feature enabled. This is the best feature for N8ii as it doesnāt get interfered by anything else, and Vastly influences the sound performances on a system wide scale Haha, Darwin is just as subtle or has no audible effect š¤ on an actual RS6 also. System wide MSEB is great for streaming etc I'm surprised you've not come accross it before.
Joe confirmed that Darwin will not work on R8, but also confirmed that it is not bound by R2R design specifically. However, we all know how marketing and stuff can really go. They would want to keep what they could though, like no MSEB on N8ii š Yeah, I have never tried any Hiby, so I never known it existed. I thought only Sony Android having system wide EQ PS: joes did neither confirm nor denying the FPGA implementations between RS6/R8 alsoā¦but stated that R8 is bound by built in LPF by akm4497EQ I also donāt think the majority of aggressive OS or feedbacks would bring observable effects to LPF, it is observable on Dx300 as Cirrus isnāt that aggressive in it own feedbacks and so on
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 15:29:07 GMT
A more detailed answer about Darwin. It is possible that it would work on R8ā¦aka as I posted above for scenario #1 www.head-fi.org/threads/hib...s-mqa-16x-copper-chassis.958878/post-16950507So, Darwin is not bound by R2R alone, and AKM as ROHM can and will take external LPF if programmed and processed by external source and doubling it up. This will clear up the confusion and the jokes that FPGA + R2R on the RS6 has nothing to do with R8 andā¦ N8. As I mentioned, hearings is believing, listen to it yourself before you decide. Anyways, I deem MSEB a superior features and is the thing to have rather than enabling Darwin for N8ii IMO
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 15:33:48 GMT
This peaks my interests as in the case that if using Darwin, perhaps the HiBy app would be it native optimized player. I think Neutron and it own interpolations, is also interfering with Darwin. Hence, I didnāt like it much and putting too much strain on the system so it distorts.
In any cases, with subtles effects and doubling the LPF, I would still recommend using MSEB instead. Because the ROHM native sigma delta with it own filters actually do wonderfully well with MSEB and also Neutron 16X
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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 16:37:45 GMT
This peaks my interests as in the case that if using Darwin, perhaps the HiBy app would be it native optimized player. I think Neutron and it own interpolations, is also interfering with Darwin. Hence, I didnāt like it much and putting too much strain on the system so it distorts. In any cases, with subtles effects and doubling the LPF, I would still recommend using MSEB instead. Because the ROHM native sigma delta with it own filters actually do wonderfully well with MSEB and also Neutron 16X To be fair Darwin is neither use nor ornament on the Hiby RS6 either. I never heard any difference between any setting or preset. After all the huge hype on Darwin for the several months before the RS6 release I was convinced I was pressing buttons with no code behind them just so they hit their release date and the next firmware would have the code added šš¤£
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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 16:48:02 GMT
A more detailed answer about Darwin. It is possible that it would work on R8ā¦aka as I posted above for scenario #1 www.head-fi.org/threads/hib...s-mqa-16x-copper-chassis.958878/post-16950507So, Darwin is not bound by R2R alone, and AKM as ROHM can and will take external LPF if programmed and processed by external source and doubling it up. This will clear up the confusion and the jokes that FPGA + R2R on the RS6 has nothing to do with R8 andā¦ N8. As I mentioned, hearings is believing, listen to it yourself before you decide. Anyways, I deem MSEB a superior features and is the thing to have rather than enabling Darwin for N8ii IMO <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Lol yeah we know all about false advertising, The Atmosphere Enhanced button definitely has a effect on the lows on some tracks and that button is in the Darwin menu. The difference is we enabled that low shelf option which is off on the RS6 š¤
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 16:51:20 GMT
Is there a way to do both P+ and Class A together Steve ?
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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 16:56:43 GMT
Is there a way to do both P+ and Class A together Steve ? Not that i've seen, it might also be a physical thing. you could try the hiby r8 ro.vendor.turbo=yes option (from memory) Maybe it sends the same code (it enables extra opamps) but i doubt it The Turbo button would appear in Audio Settings
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 19:01:30 GMT
I think they firmware limited the P+ together with class A amplifierā¦. š
this gotta be somewhere in Cayin Vendor list or so, I tried reading them and it gave gibberish text š
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Post by shawnb on May 6, 2022 19:03:15 GMT
Can I get a explain it like I'm 5 walkthrough cause I can't figure any of this out. I can't even figure how to connect to a console session on your N8II via USB. Did everything up to that and now I have no clue WTF I'm doing. Never used commandshell in my life so I'm at a total loss.
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 19:10:01 GMT
Is there a way to do both P+ and Class A together Steve ? Not that i've seen, it might also be a physical thing. you could try the hiby r8 ro.vendor.turbo=yes option (from memory) Maybe it sends the same code (it enables extra opamps) but i doubt it The Turbo button would appear in Audio Settings
I found the build.prop. It is inside Vendor build.prop If we can edit this and save it, then we can possibly enable them together lol
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Post by whitigir on May 6, 2022 19:12:10 GMT
Not a foolproof guide, but this more detailed steps by steps instructions should be pretty easy to follow. This is for windows PC Remember, after installing all usb drivers, and tools, restart your pc. drive.google.com/file/d/1Ax9mspV_dwud_3zvOviQ_B1oWjYzUdJz/view?usp=drivesdkWhy rooting your N8ii ? the way stock/unrooted configuration, the N8ii is more dedicated toward UI and execution of apps, boot up, be fast and responsive, rather than being dedicated to music. Rooting it, allow for a more in-depth controlling of this , and allow the users to scale it differently. One can scale for less heat, slower response but more battery life, and or scaling for all about music instead of other apps like me. Also, rooted allows a System Wide MSEB (similar to parametric EQ but easier to understand and tinker with, and is a systems Wide, not bound to a specific app) to uninstall bloat ware, you do not need to root shawnb here you go
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Post by NPAudio on May 6, 2022 19:14:17 GMT
Not that i've seen, it might also be a physical thing. you could try the hiby r8 ro.vendor.turbo=yes option (from memory) Maybe it sends the same code (it enables extra opamps) but i doubt it The Turbo button would appear in Audio Settings
I found the build.prop. It is inside Vendor build.prop If we can edit this and save it, then we can possibly enable them together lol <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Yes those just enable and disable the menu options we already have. Thats where I get the other serttings from the RS6 and R8
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